Gilon Nicolas Jacques

I am not certain but this mark could belong to GILLON, Jacques arms manufacturer with MORTIER (Liege) which in 1908 deposited a patent for a "renversant" revolver.

The revolver photographed is also of the "renversant" type (S & W).

The weapon carries the punches of tests of the proof house of Liege, namely:

Spangled ELG in a crowned oval: acceptance post 1893.

B spangled: countermark of the controller post 1877

R crowned: rifled bore - post 1894.

However, if one judges some by the illustration of the patent attached, this weapon could be well of Nicolas Joseph GILON - according to his signature - or Gillon - according to the heading of the patent, but gone back to 1872...

The drawing of the system of opening corresponds perfectly to the model but it is true that that resembles itself as that resembles system S&W. It is not easy on photograph!

N.J.GILON could correspond well, by admitting that it takes Joseph and not Nicolas (initial J.G.)

There are 2 revolvers system GILON with the Museum of Liège, I would throw an eye to confirm! (Guy)

GG et MD

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GILON (Under all reserves)

This weapon is difficult to identify, it acts of course of a revolver top break of the type S&W. The full barrel is equipped with a collective star extractor.

The shield with 6 holes for the passage of the striker and placed between the barrel and the frame is probably intended to protect the gunner from the cracklings during the shooting.

I examined two only patents N.J.GILON and even if the weapons resemble each other, it is not mentioned there shield in question. Is it a late improvement not patented? I am unaware of it.

I do not have the certainty with 100% that mark J.G belongs well to Nicolas Joseph GILON and without precise name it is not possible to find the patent of this weapon among the 15.000 patents deposited for arms manufacture inhabitant of Liège.

With regard to the punch of the proof house of Liege present on the weapon, it is about the punch of spangled acceptance ELG in an oval 1846/1893 and of U crowned which is the countermark of the controller of 1853 to 1877.

GG

GILON (Under all reserves)

Your revolver is thus a system with top break with 5 shots extremely copied and sometimes sophisticated in Liege at that time.

You advance the assumption that it is about a GILON and not GILLION! There of be several and the only one which could be appropriate compared to the dates would be GILON Nicolas Joseph of the village of Remy Saint in the province of Liege. That being known as the initial ones does not correspond.

I join a copy of the patent of this arms manufacturer (1870/71) but it is difficult for me to make a comparison between this patent and of the so beautiful photographs are they. With you thus, the weapon in hand, to compare and give me if possible the result!?

I also saw an R spangled which could be in my opinion a countermark of controller of the bench of tests of Liege post 1877.

I did not see either on the photographs mark KRUPP REVOLVER? Does that indicate steel used? It is probable but I do not have any certainty.

GG

 My Dave brother, in Oregon, compared the gun to the Gilon patent and said it was similar, but that he could not tell if that was the patent for the actual gun.

Richard

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