FABRIQUES D'ARMES Fs DUMOULIN&CIE.

Date of issue: +1944.

Action N° 828.

Under print of a rifle, open at the breech.

Company originally founded in 1908. Although principally an arms manufacturer, the company was interested in sports goods and ironware of all sorts.

 

François DUMOULIN & compagnie

On sold at "Ives Devos"

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François DUMOULIN & compagnie

Shotgun hammerless to juxtaposed barrels of gauge 12.

Locks are of type “ahead”. Engraving is of English type with rollers

The opening of the weapon is practiced using the key top lever, a safety of the marked type GALAND S with the fine gold is placed just behind.

The stick worked with English is out of wood of walnut fair (French?).

Punches

The weapon carries the punches of the proofhouse of Liege, namely:

ELG on star in a crowned oval: final acceptance post 1893.

Peron: inspection post 1853.

AC spangled: countermark of the controller post 1877.

PV surmounted of a stylized lion: test with the powder without smoke, of use of 1898 to 1968.

12-65 in an omega: gauge nominal and length of the casing, of use of 1924 to our days.

Small letter “g”: yearly letter of 1928 (year of manufacture of the weapon)

Choke 18.3: chokes barrels, gauged to 22 cm of the breech, of use of 1924 to 1968.

1 kg 518: weight of the barrel which can draw from the powders without smoke (weapons smooth) except for the gram. In use of 1924 to our days.

Marks

F.D.C. Manufacture: mark of manufacturer François DUMOULIN & company, street Thier of the Fountain, 2 in LIEGE. It was registered with the proofhouse of 1908 to 1968 before being taken again by LALOUX (see site)

A.ROUFFIN: it is about the engraver of the weapon on which I do not have any information unfortunately.

FRIED. KRUPP.A.G. ESSEN - SPECIAL GEWEER LAUP. STAHL with drawing of 3 overlapping circles: it is about the type of steel used for the guns.

83962: job number.

Appendix: a publicity of this firm presenting the same weapon more or less.

GG

François Dumoulin & Cie

It is indeed about a rifle revolver to central percussion of late manufactured (see punches). The loading is done by a side door.

The long cylinder is not grooved and is with six blows seems it to me.

It is of the calibre 10,5mm.

The stick is of type pistol and the hand-shield under the barrel is squared.

The barrel with 8 sides must be striped, although I did not see the punch R crowned!

The weapon carries the lawful punches of the proofhouse of Liege, namely:

Spangled ELG in a crowned oval: acceptance post 1893, which seems to me late for a weapon of this type. It was probably intended for South America.

E spangled: countermark of the controller post 1877.

Peron: inspection post 1853.

EL in cursive letters: provisional test post 1852.

10, 5: calibre in mm, of use of 1889 to our days.

L crowned: this mark does not belong to the proofhouse and I am unaware of what it indicates. I allot it in any assumption to the founder of cylinder, since this mark is never met but on the cylinders. If you have a better explanation, I am taking.

Mark F.DUMOULIN & C° belong like know it the readers of the “Who’s Who” at the firm François DUMOULIN & Co, manufactures from weapons, street Thier of the fountain, 2 in Liege (Proofhouse 1908/1968).

GG

François Dumoulin & Cie

The weapon is a shotgun to juxtaposed unrifled bores, gauges 16 hammers external with central percussion, key between the hammers. The stock in drowning is with English and the lock engraving in animalist copper-plate engraving.

It carries the lawful punches of the proof house of Liege, namely:

Spangled ELG in a crowned oval: acceptance post 1893.

Peron: inspection post 1853.

Crowned AF: countermark of the controller post 1877.

EL in cursive letters: provisional test post 1852.

16C in a rhombus: gauge weapon, of use of 1898 to 1924.

Choke 16.4/17.0: chokés guns: gauge in mm to 22 cm of the breech and the mouth, of use of 1910 to 1924.

Markings of the manufacturer

LANCELOT in LIEGE

In accordance with the two last requests for identifications concerning of marked rifles LANCELOT à LIEGE and whose name of the manufacturer could not have been identified, I discovered publicities of the firm Fs. DUMOULIN street Thier of the fountain, 2 in Liege (Proof house 1894/1968) whose telegraphic address was LANCELOT - LIEGE.

Coincidence is not in my opinion and I regard this mystery as being elucidated!

9120: serial number.

E3 - 5F - sign omega: markings of workshop without known significance.

ACIER GARANTI (GUARANTEED STEEL): without comment.

Manufacture: between 1910 and 1924.

GG

François Dumoulin & Cie

Rifle or collapsible rifle, according to whether it is striped or not, of type LECLERCQ or called “of poacher” because it could easily be dissimulated in clothing. The key of opening is known as “key snake”.

This type of weapon is present in many catalogs of the manufacturers of Liège of the end of the 19th century and at the beginning of 20th.

The manufacturer of this one is François DUMOULIN & Co, street Thiers of the fountain, 2 in Liege and which was registered as manufacturer with the proof house of 1908 to 1968.

GG

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Dumoulin François

Again very traditional and very current "BOSSU" in other words a standard revolver Bulldog but with hidden hammer (hammerless). This type of weapon was manufactured in hundreds of thousands of specimens in Liege.

It carries the typical punches of the proof house of Liège is:

Spangled ELG in a crowned oval: acceptance of 1893 to 1968.

Spangled AH: countermark of the controller of 1877 to 1968.

R crowned: rifled bore of 1894 to 1968.

PV surmounted of a lion: test with the powder lives of 1898 to 1968.

The manufacturer

Here I would be careful because the mark is not easily readable, I think of reading F.D.C. in a cartouche, it would act then of François DUMOULIN & Compagnie already largely evoked on the site.

GG

François Dumoulin & Cie

It acts of a copy of a foldable S&W caliber .38 like extracts it above from catalogue L.ANCION-MARX of 1909.

I met some in other catalogues of Liège like LOVINFOSSE & HARDY in particular.

I was astonished by bad quality by the punches by BE (except oval ELG) the punches by the controller leave me doubts.

The mark with star is unknown for me (one moreover).

Letters F.D.C. mean François Dumoulin & Co. (Patent filling for revolver in 1902)

GG et MD

François DUMOULIN & Cie

Traditional shotgun that this unrifled bore weapon and juxtaposed gauges 12 of them. Locks are of type hammerless and the key of opening “Top lever”.

The weapon carries the lawful punches of the proof house of Liege, namely:

Spangled ELG in a crowned oval: acceptance post 1893

Peron: inspection post 1853.

G spangled: countermark of the controller post 1877

PV surmounted of a stylized lion: test with the powder without smoke post 1898.

EL in cursive letters: provisional test post 1852.

12-70 in large C: gauge nominal and length of the casing post 1924.

CHOKE 19.2: chokés guns: cal. to 22 cm of the breech, of use of 1924 to 1968.

1 kg 936: weight of the gun which can draw from the powders without smoke (weapons smooth) to the gram. Post 1924.

I saw other marks on a gun but the quality and the framing of the photograph prevented me from identifying those.

Manufacturer

François.DUMOULIN & Co in Liege were largely evoked on the site, thank you to defer you to this one.

GG

François Dumoulin

Beautiful shotgun to juxtaposed unrifled bores of gauge 20-70.Les locks ahead are of hammerless type with key top lever, they are decorated of a fine animalist and vegetable engraving.

The stick in drowning is of gun type.

Punches

This weapon has a multitude of punches, it is not very current to see some as much at the same time. The majority are those of the proof house of Liège, namely:

Spangled ELG in an oval crowned - acceptance - 1893/1968.

H spangled: countermark of controller WOIT Christophe (1938/1968) mark of use of 1877 to 1968.

1 kg 027: weight of the gun which can draw from the powders without smoke (weapons smooth) except for the gram. 1924/our days.

20-70 in large C: gauge nominal and length of the casing - 1924/our days

z (little): yearly letter of 1947

CHOKE 15.8 - 15.9: chokés guns: cal to 22 cm of the breech - 1924/1968.

Marks

STEEL ARQUEBUSIER CAPE JF: the CAPE company is well-known as manufactures barrels.

FALLA: also was manufacturer of barrels, useful himself of the steel of the precedent??

DF in a rectangle: is the mark of François DUMOULIN evoked on the site like the two precedents.

Conclusions

Rifle was manufactured in 1947 per firm DUMOULIN François & Co street Thiers of the Fountain, 2 in Liège (Proof house of Liege 1908/1968) probably starting from the guns provided by FALLA and manufactured with CAPE steel. This process was current at the time.

GG

Photographs from "LUXARM - BRASSCHAAT" with my grateful thanks

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Dumoulin

Gauge 12

Photographs friendly authorized by "Collectorsfirearms"

Ets François DUMOULIN & Cie

Revolver with crack of the type WARNANT, opening of the type S & W, extractor in “star”, center fire, six shots.

Markings

Of the bench of tests of Liege: invisible on the photographs.

Of the manufacturer:

DF and small mill.

Manufacturer

DF and the small mill are trade marks by Ets François DUMOULIN & Cie street Thier of the fountain, 2 in Liege (Bench of test 1894/1968) (see joined mark)

GG

Many thanks to "ANTIQUEFIREARMS" for the photos.

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